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What is fractal art for you?

Thu May 8, 2014, 4:27 PM
I guess i got an apology to make, beause this was not a matter i took seriously till this week, and, i guess, just got a bunch of things to re-consider. Well, better late than never :dummy:

One characteristic of fractal art is that is fairly reproduceable.

A real master with deep knowledge of fractal software can, just from looking at a piece, find out how it was made, and re-create it. It is actually amazing, and, a while ago, I followed with quite a lot of interest, the "duel" between FractalDesire and zy0rg, when they both tried - and succeeded - in reproducing each other`s artworks.

Grand bipolar by FractalDesire Corrupted by zy0rg

and then,

Twisted by zy0rg Stolen from the stealer by FractalDesire

Generous people share parameters and allow other people to tweak them or just study them and learn. For example, the longest fractal pong on deviantART, by Undead-Academy and batjorge

Alien Worlds -Pong544 by Undead-Academy Heart Attempt - Pong 555 by batjorge

But there are also sad things about all this. I do not mean art theft, but rather certain very popular universal solutions.

For example, a great and popular fractal artist releases a tutorial, with fairly precise indications of how a certain piece was created. Many people rush to try it, and not of them bother about trying to create something truly unique and personal, and rather just follow the tutorial without changing anything. Well, maybe pick a different gradient.

Scripts. To be honest, its something i also used to do when i just started fractalling (and back in 2007 or so scrpits were THE thing :blush:). Someone releases a script - or just shares cool params and people use the *make flame into script button* - and everybody starts using it. One click of mouse, and yay, you just got a cool looking flame in your favourite style. Easy, isn`t it?

All sorts of "easy things". You want your flame to look cool? No, do not worry about spending a day trying out different gradients and imaging settings. Just download a image editing software and click a button. Run a script. Follow a tutorial without adding anything and experimenting with different possibilities for hours. Or don't even bother, make your fractal software pop a random and render it.

So, this is a question to all fractal artists. What is fractal art for you? What is art for you?

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marthig Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
This is a Tantalizing proposition, "me thinks".
I believe most of us fractal artists at dA have heard or learnt about the meaning of "Fractal".

... as to  Fractal
 art ... 
 is a form of algorithmic art created by calculating fractal objects and representingthe calculation results as still images, animations, and media. Fractal art developed from themid-1980s onwards.[1] It is a genre of computer art and digital art which are part of new media art. The Julia set and Mandlebrot sets can be considered as icons of fractal art.[2]
 
The above is a partial definition found in my favourite dictionary on line:  
--->encyclopedia.thefreedictionary…"

and for just Art I checked in the same dictionary:
...
2. a. The conscious production or arrangement of sounds, colors, forms, movements, or other elements in a manner that affects the sense of beauty, specifically the production of the beautiful in a graphic or plastic medium.

Agree that my response so far is some sort of "cheat" but as some of the well known philosophers would say (Socrates maybe ?)  before starting a discussion about something, we have to define our terms so, that's what I tried to do before explaining what FRACTAL ART means to me.

I am most sensitive to colour, love colours and specifically when they are delicately harmonized.  Same as with music I don't like "clashing" notes not more than clashing colours.  What are clashing colours and/or notes to me ?

Those that make my teeth or eyes hurt.  That is of course a very personal view which is why I am defining only what Fractal Art means to me. 

So, Fractal Art to me would be any fractal showing harmonizing colours, shapes, patterns and/or rhythms.    :heart: 

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marthig Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
To the above I forgot to add an important element: original creation.  Even if derived from a tutorial or free available parameters.
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Jakeukalane Featured By Owner May 31, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
As I am a writer and I can barely draw, I have seen always fractal art as a medium to express my ideas and fantasy, rather just art for art. Normally I don't use only one program for doing anything and that's why I think that I could use tutorials without a problem because the result is far away from the tutorial given.

One example of fractal use it in my works are these:

Nave interplanar dussiana by JakeukalaneNave espacial e interplanar dyssiana by JakeukalaneEl Planeta Hyyr by JakeukalaneLos Virus Interplanares by Jakeukalane

I also do pure fractals, but I try to do them original → jakeukalane.deviantart.com/art… (this one is the first and finest chaotica fractal I ever do).
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roup14 Featured By Owner May 30, 2014   Digital Artist

First time I saw the fractal art  Fall ...... created by  Gurly after few month of joining DA and I fell in love with this piece of work and became little mad about how such a beautiful image have been created. So  I searched and luckly I found Ultra fractal and with help of tutorials given by her I succeeded in making my first fractal art and also learnt about how to handle ultra fractal . Still I m learning a lot each day from other artist and the most from :iconultra-fractal-redux: group.


I also tried Apophysis and with help of tutorials given  by Lindelokse I also rendered the beautiful bloom but I never found apophysis friendly to me….It always gave me feeling of complexity. Even I also tried Fractal explorer but not able to handle it properly . I think it will take little time to master .


Ultrafractal is easy to understand and handle and being a digital artist I know how to play with layers and opacity  so ultrafractal is near to my heart more than photoshop .For me fractal art helped me to find myself what I am really from inside a free soul who is in this world to enjoy the creativity of God the Great fractal artist  .

I daily used to spend many hours in creating fractal , always try to find something interesting and new .It is not easy to copy other people works or tweak their parameter , they have their choice of color shape and patterns but I always appreciate when I find something interesting to learn which I don't know.


Fractal art creation has changed me from inside , now I don’t want to waste my time in shopping or watching tv or any other thing  . Just want to create beautiful colorful lovely fractals . Now I can say Fractal art creation is a way for me to spend colorful creative time  with myself and rising each day in love with this art.

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skulkey Featured By Owner May 26, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
definition of "fractal" is easy.  what is "art" is one of those intense subjective debates...

i see a lot of people talking about having "mastery" of the medium.  i don't think that's necessary to "art".  art is an approach to the medium - to create something original and beautiful.  i don't know what i'm doing half the time, but i strive for originality and beauty in everything i do.
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guagapunyaimel Featured By Owner May 21, 2014
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cyberxaos Featured By Owner May 19, 2014
I don't think there is anything wrong with reproduction, and fractal art is not alone in being reproducible.  Art students who paint will reproduce the work of a master, in order to learn the techniques used by that artist. An art connoisseur will be able to tell the difference between an original and a reproduction.  

With the invention of photography, it became easy to reproduce images.  Now, in the digital age, artworks are even more fluid; artists can create derivative works without corrupting the original, and we see a lot of mashups and remixing.  It's all art.  

In my mind, the sign of a master fractal artist, is someone who has complete control over the software, to the point where their works are created with intention, a master fractal artist will have an idea, and execute that idea using the tool (or software) he or she has mastery over.  This can be taken a step further when the artist modifies the tool (or software) to allow him or her to express the idea if the tool is too limited:  see the the Faber twins, for example.  Moreover, I feel that those artists who understand the underlying fractal geometry, are those who create the works with the most intention.
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Shadoweddancer Featured By Owner May 15, 2014   Digital Artist
My art didn't start with fractaling.  I've been oil and watercolor painting since middle school, and lots of photography in college.  I almost went to art school instead of becoming a biologist. I mostly gave it up when I became a mom.  It's hard enough to be a working mom.  Who has time or creative juices left over for art?

I started doing fractals in 2007 after being intrigued by a number of images posted by a friend on LiveJournal.  I'm a very busy woman and my job and volunteer organizations keep me very busy but I needed something to channel my creativity.  I still dabble in traditional art, but the materials are expensive and there is the problem of what do you do with the paintings if you don't have time to do art shows in order to sell them.  Fractaling gave me the outlet that I found I really needed.  

DA has been a great place for learning how to use the various software.  I started off with Apophysis, following various tutorials and using different scripts.  I have to admit that I learned from using scripts, but I found them generally a little bit of a letdown because I didn't want my work to look like everyone else's.  I would much rather have a tutorial because those provide a better basis for experimentation.  Unfortunately, I haven't been doing any new Apophysis lately.  I've had some real problems since I bought a new laptop working Apophysis in Windows 7 and have set that program aside for the time being because it's been too frustrating.  Besides a creative outlet, doing fractals is also a good stress release.   BTW, if anyone can help me understand why Apophysis keeps freezing up in Windows 7, I'd sure appreciate some suggestions.  Please note me.  

I started doing UF about a year later and found that I preferred that program's layering versatility.  I already had a fairly good understanding of layering in Photoshop and the layers can be merged and colored the same way.  I have gotten better with UF than Apo thanks to tutorials, and I sometimes look at other peoples parameters to gain understanding in techniques and new formulas.  I've been told I don't really have "a style".  That's okay with me.  In RL I'm a scientist so I like to experiment.  Maybe sometime I can come up with really unique combinations and it will be my turn to contribute to someone else's knowledge.  

Right now I don't have a whole lot of time for art.  I hope by July to get back to spending time doing more complex pieces and experimenting like I used to do.  Honestly, if I could make a living doing art I would.   Maybe once I retire... 

Cyd 
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phitek Featured By Owner May 15, 2014  Professional General Artist
"Fractal" can mean many things at the moment, and for myself, democracy is no judge.

A way of describing "crinkly stuff" mathematically is one of them, according to BBM!B-) (Cool) 

A set of equations which "resemble" natural forms: a away of looking at things perhaps!

We ARE fractal art, all of us!Love 

when you see with "fractal glasses", a deeper understanding of things awaits, and a richer world unfolds.

opinion - pi = onion (i.e.; many layered)

sometimes coincidence is the rule ;)  

Can you see the wood for the trees? Ohm... Ohm... 

This is a lovely forest, lots of trees.
extra texture by phitek  

as they say in my neck of the woods;

"when a tree falls in the forest; does it make a sound?"
:-? (Confused) 
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