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A little foci FX for the Apo-Weekly-Challenge
A bit more of isometric stuff

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:iconwaltheria:
Waltheria Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2015
Thanks for your flame. I learn it.
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:iconbillynikoll:
BillyNikoll Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
stunning!
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:iconfracfx:
FracFx Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
trippy, Escher would be proud :) :+fav:
Good luck in the challenge!

"What do all those numbers mean?" :D
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eriban Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2014
I like it! It's a cool idea to combine impossible objects with fractal-based plane divisions. Both things closely inspired by Escher.

However, I still have one suggestion for improvement. Currently, the edge colors of the big triangles match up at their red sides, but not for their white and grey sides. I think it would improve the image to do this consistently. Either let the edges match up everywhere, or never. To illustrate what I mean, refer to the following:
 Impossible By Tatasz-suggestion by eriban

Here, inside the yellow circle, I manually made all the edges meet up. Hopefully you can achieve the same by adapting your generating formula a bit.
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:icontatasz:
tatasz Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2014
=D thank you for the suggestion... I actually tried to make as many sides to not meet ^^
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:iconeriban:
eriban Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2014
Making none of the sides meet is also be possible if you prefer that. There are actually multiple ways. It can be explained by dividing the plane into hexagonal, each consisting of six large triangles. Each hexagonal itself has again six neighbors. Let's focus on one, H, and its six neighbors, named N1 to N6 going clockwise.

There are two main options:
1) Make the outside of H a single color, e.g. red. This is for example the case in my drawing above. Its neighbors should also have a single outside color, but different ones. E.g. N1, N3 and N5 can have a white outside, and N2, N4 and N6 a grey outside. You can continue filling the entire plane this way.
2) Alternatively, let each hexagonal have two sides of every color. E.g. going clockwise, red, white, grey, red, white, grey. The neighbors can be colored the same, but should be rotated such that no sides meet, nor for H and any of its neighbors, but also not for neighboring neighbors. You can also continue filling the entire plane this way.

Hopefully this is clear. If not, let me know and I can make an image illustrating this, but that will be a bit more work...
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:icontatasz:
tatasz Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2014
Ohh actually not possible ^^ Because one will also have to meet with itself =)
It has 3 sides, A B C. If A e B meet, C will have to meet with itself.
Maybe could work out some crazy weights and satanic magic, but the software is already running close to the usability limit :dummy:

Also, the parameters in description are there to be tweaked ^^ if you wanna play with them ;)
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eriban Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2014
I actually think it is possible, but let's not argue about that. The best way would indeed be to proof this by generating an updated version of the image myself.

I have never used Apophysis before, so the first challenge is installing it. That's complicated by the fact that I have a Mac. Using Wineskin/Winery I managed to get something up an running, but unfortunately failed to load your parameters correctly. It complained about four missing variations/variables (square, starblur, starblur_power and starblur_range). The render also did not look much like yours. It consisted of dots, but no lines or filled areas, see FailedFlame. Any idea what is up with that? 
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:icontatasz:
tatasz Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2014
you need to install some plugins (square and starblur)
square can be found here:The Aposhack Plugin Pack
and starblur, here: Blur Package
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:iconeriban:
eriban Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2014
Excellent! That did the trick. Thanks a lot.

So now the "only" things remaining are to first understand what you did, and secondly, find out how to modify that to get the result that I have in mind. That will take a fair while I expect, but should be fun. I will let you know once I have some results, positive or negative.
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:icontatasz:
tatasz Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2014
=D also, feel free to ask stuff ^^
here, the transforms with "square" create squares/rectangles
transforms with "starblur" create triangles.
linears are used to move and place and create copies.

If you open the Apophysis editor, and go to the color tab, you will see a "solo" checkbox. It allows to see the effect of 1transform.

dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20… this manual is a bit outdated but still describes the basic tools =D
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Lupsiberg Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
This is amazing! :worship:
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tatasz Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2014
=D thank you
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:iconjudascain:
JudasCain Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
*0*
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:iconfractal2cry:
fractal2cry Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2014
:iconwowplz:
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:iconjaffa-tealc:
Jaffa-Tealc Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2014
You must be rally patient. When I use more than 10 transforms I'm loosing orientation. Great work as always ;)
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:icontatasz:
tatasz Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2014
=D thank you ^^ and dunno, you get used with practice hehe
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allthenightlong Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
amazing work with many transforms :faint:
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:icontatasz:
tatasz Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2014
=D thank you =D
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waste-and-tragedy Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2014
Incredible...and yes, impossible - for me.
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:icontatasz:
tatasz Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2014
:aww: nah, its easy actually ^^
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ThoughtWeaver Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'm a large fan of the palette and of the view of infinity that this presents. Excellent work! :D
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:icontatasz:
tatasz Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2014
=D thank you
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:iconkondratij:
Kondratij Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2014
Great.
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KPEKEP Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2014
:love:
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FractalDesire Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2014
Very nice Escher-like thing! :clap:
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tatasz Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2014
:bow: thank you
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lyc Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2014
impossibly awesome! :wow:
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tatasz Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2014
:aww: :hug: thank you
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